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  1. I don't know, BUT... here's what
    Dr. Ellie Phillips, DDS
    says about it:
    (Oh, and she has no ties to Johnson & Johnson or to Pfizer Corp and is not endorsing any products for her own benefit or profit)
    "I would never want anyone to finish their rinsing program with a mouth rinse that contains alcohol, for another reason - because it dries the mouth.
    Dry mouth and acidity are the two things that heighten your risk for cavities and dental diseases of all kinds.
    Listerine left on teeth would not only dry your mouth, but is acidic.
    I suggest immediately rinsing with a mouth called ACT - chosen in a flavor that does not contain alcohol.
    ACT is a dilute sodium fluoride rinse that works best in an acidic mouth.
    The ACT washes away acidity and alcohol and leaves a protective film on teeth that helps to make them whiter, stronger and more acid resistant."

  2. my dentist just gave me the same advice a week ago. He said too much alcohol in listerine and to use ACT instead.
    I'm cheap and I'm going to finish my current bottle, then I will switch to ACT.

  3. My dentist has told me that for years too! It's always yelling at us to use ACT. lol Now I get it!

  4. lotta typos in that quote

  5. ooh, it's like "Where's Waldo, the Typo Edition"!
    I count one--the one about "rinsing with a mouth called ACT".
    Where are the others?

  6. HA! I guess it isn't "lots" but 2 rather. Here is no. 2:
    "ACT is a dilute sodium"

  7. I think the entire phrase was "ACT is a dilute sodium fluoride rinse"
    and since "dilute" is an adjective, it makes sense.
    Oh, I found him!

  8. Um, dilute is a verb

  9. yes, it can be As in
    "Can you please dilute the orange juice?"
    It's a verb.
    But if you were talking about a solution, it can be an adjective.
    "A dilute sodium solution"
    is perfectly grammatically correct.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dilute

  10. yes, it can be As in
    "Can you please dilute the orange juice?"
    It's a verb.
    But if you were talking about a solution, it can be an adjective.
    "A dilute sodium solution"
    is perfectly grammatically correct.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dilute

  11. Welcome! I like to search healthy recipes at allrecipes.com or cookinglight.com. I used to calorie count using online counters, but now I feel comfortable judging portion sizes and eating a balanced diet. I can understand emotional eating--I don't usually go for "bad foods" anymore, but sometimes I will say "to heck with my workout" and have a glass or wine or two instead. I have discovered that it is really important for me to get some sunlight--it helps with seratonin. Exercise, obviously, helps stabilize your mood as well--endorphins. Plus, you just feel better about yourself when you do something good. One thing that has helped me is getting over exercise as punishment. I used to be hardcore with exercise, but now I am much kinder to myself--exercise in a nice location, wear the proper clothing, bring some good music, take advantage of the most pleasant parts of the day to be outside, etc.), and that helps me avoid the all or nothing attitude.

  12. 1. diet. 2. eat clean.
    3. diet
    4. eat clean.
    5. diet...
    i think you get the idea... you get abs wtih your diet more than exercise. if you really want ABS this pretty much needs to be perfect.
    as for exercise, if you're not lifting, you should be. if you're not doing HIIT, you should be.

  13. the diet part I think I get this right, but I'm probably wrong.
    Do you have any more specifics on what I should outright avoid and should definitely include? Alcohol, obviously, but how about low-carbing etc?
    I lift and do HIIT. What's your opinion/knowledge on jogging on a regular basis for reducing BF? say 3miles 3x a week?

  14. some ideas these books are good - they'll tell you exactly what to eat and what not to, and how to exercise:
    Body for Life by Bill Phillips
    Body RX by Scott Connelly
    Eat Clean Diet by Tosca Reno
    Running marathons, halfs 10ks and 5ks has done nothing to reduce my body fat. In fact, it makes me hungry for simple carbs. Only strict diet seems to work for me.

  15. I know it's silly but, I've always been a little skeptical of books and programs because it seems like it's just another scam to me.
    But I'll look into them! Thanks!

  16. For my diet, I.... cut back on carbs (but still eat them) and rely more on veggies and fruit for my carbs sources. I increase my fat intake. I try to eat just under (about 100-250cals) my BMR.
    For workouts, I focus most of my lifts around multi-joint power lifts. Throw in a few compound moves, and completely eliminate all single joint or isolation lifts. My cardio is a mix of HIIT and endurance training.

  17. I wonder how many of those calories include the bun...
    Grr.
    Thank you for the link. I think I just need to not worry about it. I can have a light dinner and still be within my calorie budget even if FitDay IS accurate (which I doubt) so...I'm just being anal again.

  18. Also There was another turkey burger that was like curry flavored and was only 300 calories from whole foods. So, it really varies. Here is an interesting article about veggie burgers.
    I have a couple diff kinds of veggie burgers in my fridge and one box is 3 grams of fat, and another is 8 grams per patty. It all varies and you wouldn't really know unless you made sure to read the nutritional info.
    I don't think the turkey burgers from WF included the bun, but I could be wrong.
    http://calorielab.com/news/2005/10/16/dieters-beware-veggie-burger-calories-vary/

  19. I think it would alter caloric content significantly depending on whether the turkey was:
    a) white meat/lean
    b) white and dark meat only
    c) ground turkey (with skin etc)
    I've been duped by the whole 'ground chicken or ground turkey has fewer calories'. In a lot of cases, this isn't true.
    This may not help... but I assumed when I first started eating healthier that it would be ground BREAST... it is not. (usually)

  20. *nods* I didn't really consider the idea that someone might grind turkey with the skin still on. o.O Ew.
    Damn it. Now I gotta find another hamburger replacement. Boca just doesn't cut it sometimes.

  21. Have you nixed red meat?

  22. No, I just don't care for hamburger much. I've never really been a big meat eater, so I tend to stick to poultry and tuna.

  23. Okay. Well in this instance you're looking for a burger replacement (like boca or turkey) or something specifically for making burgers. What I would do (if you don't mind) is use extra lean ground sirloin. OR I would buy ground chicken breast (much more expensive here) and add in some worchestershtershire.
    I cut my burgers with oatmeal, peppers, mushrooms and egg whites so they're less 'big hunk of meat' and more interesting to me...
    I've also made some delicious burgers out of black beans (mashed) with cooked spinach, diced mushroom and oatmeal, really fantastic...

  24. I'm saving this page because you hit it on the head. It's the "big hunk of meat" thing I have an issue with. I like color and texture in my food and a big slab of flesh never appealed to me.
    Every once in a while, I get a craving for something like a cheeseburger, and today satisfied it perfectly, but the calories are gonna do me in if I continue to buy them. Not to mention the gross-factor of what I'd never considered could be IN ground turkey.
    Thanks for the tips--good ideas. :o) I could also use this to make a meatloaf substitute too if the mood ever struck.
    I'm not too worried about the ground chicken being more expensive--I don't buy meat often, so it would be worth the splurge.
    Thanks again

  25. do you like salmon?

  26. On occasion, and I have to have been the one to cook it.
    I really like tuna cakes. Mmm.

  27. here's a salmon pattie recipe I love this recipe so freaking much. It's amazing
    1.5 pounds of boneless, skinless salmon fillets - cut into chunks
    1 cup fresh whole wheat bread crumbs
    1/2 cup crumbled light feta
    1/4 cup of minced shallots
    1tbsp honey mustard
    1tbsp lemon juice
    1 egg
    1tbsp minced fresh dill
    1tsp grated lemon zest
    1/4 tsp each salt and pepper
    -Mince the salmon into very small pieces (or use a food processor if you have one). Transfer salmon to a large bowl and add the rest of the ingredients. Mix together with your hands.
    -Form into 6 patties about 3/4 of an inch thick. Put on a plate and cover with plastic wrap. Refrigerate for 1 hour.

  28. the best kind of burgher meat is be ground chuck 80/20 u might say 20% fat WTF are your insane. the fat in the meat actualy makes the patty hold itself together. But anything else id use extra lean.

  29. Ok, dumb question If I go to the store and buy ground beef or ground turkey and buy the cheapest version of either, say 80&, won't my forman grill squeeze out a lot of that fat?

  30. not all also pressing the burgher is a big no no ur squeezing out all the flavour

  31. The foreman doesn't really press it just adds a little bit of weight to the meat to grill both sides evenly, and it's on a slant to let the fat drain.

  32. for the love of gawd!!! dont squeeze em!!!!!
    but ywah soundsl ike that should be fine make sure u calculate the burgher calories after its cooked

  33. homemade crabcakes are easy to make. for that matter, so are homemade turkey burgers. you just have to look for the extra lean kind - and that kind is as expensive as ground sirloin.
    it's odd that you are talking about finding a burger replacement, and yet don't care for hamburger.

  34. :oD I know. I'm a walking contradiction sometimes.
    I have a few mental food aversions, and one of them is red meat. It's not the taste or texture that bothers me, it's just the....thought of what it IS. I know it's totally illogical and makes no sense, but poultry seems cleaner to me. *shrug* I can't explain why.
    I love hamburgers, but again...
    Haha, now that I'm thinking about it, I think I actually know where my aversion came from, but it's ridiculous and stems from one of my phobias.
    I have a pathologic phobia of worms in any form. Earthworms, mealworms, parasitic worms (especially), you name it. I've had it since I was a kid. When I learned about trichinosis in high school, I quit eating pork. As I've grown older, the phobia keeps getting worse, and pork has kind of spread out to include beef as well. I don't eat much fish for the same reason.
    *shrug* I'm crazy, I know.

  35. I'd read about the fish too Have to agree with you on that one.

  36. Yeah, seems weird, but then again what do they care? They being the people that market "ground turkey" as a healthy alternative to beef....

  37. Touché. Lesson learned. I'm kind of grossed out now. The eternal optimist in me tries to assume the best of things, and the idea of eating ground dark meat and turkey skin just...ew.

  38. I know. It's gross. Just one more reason why reading labels is a VERY good habit.
    The whole ground turkey was a shock to me as well.

  39. the daily plate more accurate as far as brand names. you should try it.
    http://www.thedailyplate.com

  40. good job.. you can do it.. how did you loose the weight? just starting out.

  41. two part strategy 1) diet
    I limited to 1200-1500 calories a day. No junk food, no soda, no high fructose corn syrup. Included lots of fruits and veggies into diet- and ate about 6 small meals a day. Those little 100 cal packs helped me in the beginning (a LOT!) so now I package treats and cereals into 100 calorie servings and put them in a pretty glass bowl on top of the fridge (i don't bother wasting the money on the 100 cal packs anymore, they're damned expensive). I can't have just one extra ginger snap if I have to open a whole new baggie to do so. I also package rotiserrie chicken breast pieces into 2 ounce servings and throw those in the freezer for an easy, all ready cooked 100 calorie protein source.
    Fiber is my friend.
    2) exercise
    I cut the cable, bought work out dvds, and joined an aerobics class. I got the boyfriend on board and he also has been running every night.
    thats about it. :-D

  42. That's awesome! You can do it! 10lbs is nothing

  43. Wow that sounds like dinner tonight now...thanks nghn

  44. it's going to be mine :) for the third night in a row hahahahaha

  45. sounds great, might have to throw some tomato in for me!

  46. and turkey pepperoni and olives!

  47. yum.... i run out of room in the pitas (they are pretty small) but you can deifnitely mix it up as you see fit.
    i've added mozzerella before too. and you could definitely to meats or other veggies.
    i'm on a spinach+ricotta kick lately though!
    sooooooo much better (+ probably better for you- at least as far as processing) than a lean pocket.

  48. which do you think it healthier part skim ricotta or low fat skim mozz?
    I want to try this tonight.

  49. not sure i would know how ot compare the two? or if there would be much of a difference. i like the taste of ricotta more and i think it' more voluminous, so i prefer that.
    really up to you and how you want to fit it into your diet.

  50. hmm, since i'm still only a few weeks in I've been staying away from cheeses...I'll wing it!

  51. a suggestion ... buy a package of part skim shredded mozzerella. it lasts forever in the fridge, is great for things like nghn's calzone, and because it is shredded it doesn't seem snackable or that it would easily go on a sandwich. with it, you can easily goose a lower calorie soup into something more hearty. you can make english muffin cheese rounds to have with soup or salad. you can live life on the edge and add it eggs in the morning or put some on top of chili or beans. it melts very well and has a low calorie cost (at least, compared to other cheeses it does.)

  52. haha... i know it sohuldn't... but it still seems VERY snackable to me!!! i'll be glad when the current packages is used up :)

  53. even the shredded? wowza.

  54. yeah lol. icould easily scarf a whole bag.... doesn't mean its pretty or all ends up in my mouth, but i could definitely do it

  55. shredded is worse for me for whatever reason, shredded cheese seems to taste better (I know that sounds totally crazy!) and I could probably sit and eat an entire bag of shredded cheese without noticing.

  56. no me too!!!! i cant dolike string cheese sticks for exmaple. it's just too much. but the shredded is lighter, less overwhelming.
    glad i'm not alone!

  57. oh me too! it's a bad idea for me to have a bag of it in the fridge. And if I am grating it onto something, I grate it right on it, instead of on a plate first. Helps me not pick at it.

  58. string cheese is good because its in one barrel, so if I eat one I can limit myself to one.
    With bags of stuff, i'm on my own to be good - and I'm not there yet! However, with mozz, i'm ok. But cheddar, i'd kill that bag in a minute!

  59. good call, I'm going shopping tonight I'll pick some up!!

  60. i've been craving pizza like crazy I set out this afternoon for lunch in an attempt to make a pizza salad, which turned out ok, but I couldn't find any vegetarian pepperoni. I don't even like pepperoni all that much, but few things say pizza like pepperoni, so I thought it might really squash my weeklong craving.
    The other thing I was looking for was the pizza flavor Morningstar patties. They have serious pizza taste, and may work for your calzone craving in a pinch if you don't have time to make your "calzone."
    Thanks for the recipe. Sounds good.

  61. to tomatoe and basil pizza burgers??? yeah i stock those too :)

  62. yes, those omg, i want one even more now! I think I must be on a fresh tomato + fresh basil + fresh mozzarella kick. 'Tis the season...

  63. for awhile when i had a pizza craving, i had pacific organic cream of tomato soup and a toasted english muffin with laughing cow on it.
    odd, what can tank the craving.

  64. oh man that sounds good!!!

  65. What's a "George Forman"? other than a retired boxer? Is this a brand name for something otherwise generic?

  66. Looks kind of like a cross between a waffle iron and an ordinary fry pan?

  67. nice i'm not a pizza or calzone fan but sounds interesting.
    +++ for sharing.

  68. thanks for the dinner idea, this is perfect!

  69. Thanks for the idea I have a whole package of those pitas in my fridge, I'll definitely give this a try!

  70. when I first started eating healthier I had some issues with my family--I was the family cook for my mom, sis, and bro, and they did NOT want to change their eating habits just because I was changing mine. I usually had to make two meals--one for them and one for me. I started making whole grain pita pizzas, though, and they all liked it. I would use lowfat string cheese (this was always on hand for my little brother) and I would use a variety of pizza toppings--plain cheese and tomato sauce for my little brother, chicken pizza for my sis, chicken and veggie pizza for my mom, and veggie pizza for me.

  71. Awesome! Thanks! I will try that. I made a flatbread toater oven pizza for lunch - TJ's has GREAT pizza sauce fyi.
    Came in at 280 calories.

  72. tonight! Thanks

  73. i have a notebook and write it in that

  74. I count daily... but sometimes I slack on weekends. Honestly, it's because DiFo is so slow on weekends. I've kind of starting conglomerating DiFo and Fitday into one daily ritual, so since I don't Difo on weekends (usually), I also don't normally FitDay.
    But if I do something out of the ordinary, dine out, or think I might have exceeded my caloric budget, then yeah, I'll log it to make sure.

  75. I don't count anymore but when I did, I didn't count on weekends either

  76. Did you find that it helped with your transition into maintenance?

  77. I did it was easier to practice my portion sizes when I knew that if I was way off, I still had the next week to make up for it. If I ate out, or ate something out of the norm I'd check it. I still do.

  78. I found this lunch container at Target That has an amazing setup.
    2 small containers with lids that I use for my cottage cheese and cup of fruit for breakfast each morning and a protein for lunch.
    ice pack
    bottom area for loose veggies, zippy with some cheese, almonds turkey pepperoni, jerky... etc.
    Somehow, no matter what I put in the "lunchbox" it seems to average out to about the same amount every day!
    I'm going to keep this thing forever! haha!

  79. i do or rather, i did during my first weight loss phase, i did during my first maintenance phase and then stopped fitday completely. i'm tracking again for awhile to stay balanced and to lose 1 more pound. and i log on the weekends now, again.
    even when i don't managed to get to a computer to punch it in as it happens, i still backtrack and use my memory or notes to put in the weekend amounts. i'm a big fan of fitday's reports, and you don't get valid feedback from those for the calories in/activity outs one or the daily average without staying accountable over the weekends.

  80. I've only been counting for a week, but I counted the weekend meals as well. I can already tell that the weekends are the biggest calorie days for me, so I feel that I really need to keep on top of it.

  81. I don't count EVER Why? I hate depending on computers! I grew up before they even existed and it galls me to think that I can't lead a regular life without them.
    I will use the computer on occasion to look up how dense the calories are for a given fruit, etc, so I know whether to be restrictive with it, or go after it with wild abandon.
    But I don't count...ever. If the scale is moving the wrong direction, I cut back consumption, slightly, and I increase exercise, slightly. If that's not enough (I wait a week for results) I push a little more.
    Also, as you imply - if you're at the computer, you are way too sedentary.

  82. are you using the alli pills or eating lots of candy/snacks with malitol in it?

  83. not using any pills i am doing the idiot proof diet.. lots of fruit and veggies but i have all the nesscessary stuff too.

  84. did you eat lots of fruits and veg before? it may just be more fiber than your body is used to. happened to me when i tried southbeach.

  85. i love fruits and veggies i didnt eat as much but now going on day 7 of this i am getting a little irritated... no pun intended.. i have lost 3 lbs. but come on...

  86. Happened to me too I had the trots for about a week when I switched, and then just really...um...(trying to be tactful) soft movements for about a month after that.
    Finally, I've gone back to normal and feel a lot happier.
    It will go away. Your body just needs to adjust to having such different proportions and varieties of food in your body.

  87. REALLY!!!! man, thats crazy.. i dont like it.. i dont know if i can go that long.. i might use something to stop it.

  88. It's your body's way of cleaning you out. It's totally natural, and it's just an adjustment period. Now, you're doing a different diet strategy than I am, and your body is different than mine, so you will undoubtably function differently as well.
    Don't go out and preemptively start taking things to interfere with your body's processes. If you don't start having more comfortable movements in a few more days, just try playing with your diet. Add more protein, more unsaturated fat (nuts, avocado, olive oil), etc. Just see what works naturally. Chances are really good you'll clear out and be more comfortable soon without having to turn to something unnatural.
    Also keep in mind about water consumption. I think my bm's stayed soft for so long because, as I mentioned in an earlier thread, I drink a TON of water. Usually my entire body weight in ounces. When you drink that much, it ends up being excreted wherever it can--sweat, urine, and yes...poopies.
    If your water intake is sufficient, just wait it out. It'll get better, I promise.

  89. thanks yes i drink alot of water too. i am borderline diabetic so i am always thirsty. thanks for the help.

  90. I found that because my water in take is so high a really high fiber diet helped a LOT. I make sure to have a whole-grain starch with every meal.
    This morning, it was kashi oatmeal, lunch involves a slice of whole wheat toast (plus a ton of steamed high fiber veggies), and dinner will include sweet potatoes and green beans.
    I have a lot of fiber, and it helps, um...solidify a lot of things. :o)

  91. This is probably out of left field, but have you started eating more foods with artificial sweeteners? Some of them can cause cramping and diarrhea. This is unlikely though, unless or you consume too much of them or your stomach has a low tolerance.

  92. no not at all. i havent had any.. i am just going to hope and pray it stops soon.

  93. I don't know, BUT... here's what
    Dr. Ellie Phillips, DDS
    says about it:
    (Oh, and she has no ties to Johnson & Johnson or to Pfizer Corp and is not endorsing any products for her own benefit or profit)
    "I would never want anyone to finish their rinsing program with a mouth rinse that contains alcohol, for another reason - because it dries the mouth.
    Dry mouth and acidity are the two things that heighten your risk for cavities and dental diseases of all kinds.
    Listerine left on teeth would not only dry your mouth, but is acidic.
    I suggest immediately rinsing with a mouth called ACT - chosen in a flavor that does not contain alcohol.
    ACT is a dilute sodium fluoride rinse that works best in an acidic mouth.
    The ACT washes away acidity and alcohol and leaves a protective film on teeth that helps to make them whiter, stronger and more acid resistant."

  94. my dentist just gave me the same advice a week ago. He said too much alcohol in listerine and to use ACT instead.
    I'm cheap and I'm going to finish my current bottle, then I will switch to ACT.

  95. My dentist has told me that for years too! It's always yelling at us to use ACT. lol Now I get it!

  96. lotta typos in that quote

  97. ooh, it's like "Where's Waldo, the Typo Edition"!
    I count one--the one about "rinsing with a mouth called ACT".
    Where are the others?

  98. HA! I guess it isn't "lots" but 2 rather. Here is no. 2:
    "ACT is a dilute sodium"

  99. I think the entire phrase was "ACT is a dilute sodium fluoride rinse"
    and since "dilute" is an adjective, it makes sense.
    Oh, I found him!

  100. Um, dilute is a verb

  101. yes, it can be As in
    "Can you please dilute the orange juice?"
    It's a verb.
    But if you were talking about a solution, it can be an adjective.
    "A dilute sodium solution"
    is perfectly grammatically correct.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dilute

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